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Post by n2ojoe on Oct 11, 2021 4:15:59 GMT -8
I like where this project is heading. Great driving beaters are WAY more fun.
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Post by landbarge on Oct 11, 2021 5:25:55 GMT -8
You don't have to put on shoe condoms and load it into a trailer to go somewhere
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Post by spud on Oct 11, 2021 7:30:41 GMT -8
I started a 70 javelin project i dunno ten twelve maybe 15 years ago. It was a project i got for a song, one of those abandoned trashed cars that had been left to rot long ago. It was a 70 go pack ram air 360 auto, had everything a donahue had, might have been one, january built car. Dark metallic blue, light blue intererior. Left in a field with the windows rolled down for decades then became a found parts victim for an amc butcher/ vulture, i traded some junk for what was left. I worked on it roadkill style and got it back to life, drove it around the neighborhood a few times, rebuilt the front end, bought some aerospace front brakes from mike luke, then got involved in another lark, kinda lost interest in it, the floors were rotted, the rear quaters rotted, yaknow a lot of hard work in the sheet metal. Someone offered me 2000 for it once, and i rejected the offer. Pretty much end of that car story. Forward to earlier this year i was hunting rear axles and bought a 70 jav body, picked clean, just a body, rust in rear wheelwells, but solid otherwise, doors, fenders, decklid windsheild, back glass, nothing else, not bad junk, not good junk .. oh and it also came with what i really wanted, an axle. So i bought it all to get the axle, had to travel back with enough springs suspension and tires to roll her onto a trailer and get it home. Plan? No plan. After parking this sad 70 next to my other sad 70 and idea formed. Take the best junk from the first total rustbucket and pit them on the new hull. Then find whatever else i needed to make a runner. I have a lot of old shit for that. The tkx was a wildcard i didnt need. I came to the realization modern drivers really need overdrive, i also dont buy big ticket items that o cant trust to be hammered on at some point, that may need to go into another car, that i will keep irregardless, i treat my chassis like legos, i have never historically left anything together long enought to finish. So i started doing that again and robbed all the good stuff off the old blue rustbucket and putting them on the new more solid carcass and putting the old junk on the old blue rustbucket. In the end i will have drivable dependable roadkill and maybe i can interest freiburger in this other car for an episode of roadkill. It ran years ago, why not let him haul it off for me? Spread the roadkill joy. So it goes, i dont restore, thats to labor intensive and costly, i have never been able to be that kind of amc’er, I do the mechanics, i have never had a jewel, my art is different. I like legos, burnouts, watching the world roll by from the drivers seat, the noises smells sounds of old cars, making people look at my old crap and hearing stories at the gas station, then being able to get in shut the door get away and laugh. When i get this junk where it runs i will send reb some new pictures.
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Post by spud on Oct 12, 2021 18:59:34 GMT -8
I stopped by the junkyard today for some vital parts shopping. I got a nice ford c-6 yoke from an old ltd wagon, a fresh looking diaphram clutch from a old chevy truck, which also had a nice hd clutch fork and release bearing too, and then a driveshaft out of a big pile of driveshafts that had the right size 1330 yokes but will need cut down and balanced. This evening I ordered some new motor mounts from summit, and a urethane gm trans mount. Big ticket item was a 62” speedo cable with a t-5 bullet end and an old school threaded collar speedo end for a mopar. That critical item was 151$. I enjoyed blowing money so much i bought a cheap summit shifter ball…I already have a nice hurst stick from a supershifter3… I got a wide selection of ford speedo gears so i should be ok there. Gotta get some kind of pilot bushing but dont exactly know what yet. Clutch linkake is in the works. Cut and paste some old dodge stuff and amc stuff… I got pedals from i dunno what kind of amc, they are a litlle longer than a javelin, but i think they will work. If they turn out to be too long for my big feet i can cut em down some. Productive day!
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Post by spud on Oct 20, 2021 20:40:16 GMT -8
I got a nice aluminum bellhousing kit from advance adapters, pn 712570. Why i like it is its a really stout thick aluminum casting bellhousing, configured to fit a gm trans with the common 4.686 bearing retainer hole. It comes with the right custom pilot bushing to fit the late amc torkflite crank, a forged clutch fork and pivot ball, a rubber dustcover, hardware, a complete conversion to adapt a gm trans to amc v8 and 4.0 and late six culinder engines. 406$ from summit. Its lighter and doesnt hsve all the sfi bolthole bosses sticking out all over like a steel sfi scattershield. The kit is a cheap and easy alternative to a scsttershield and finding that odd pilot bushing to fit a gm trans.
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Post by 69Rebel on Oct 20, 2021 21:21:12 GMT -8
I ended up buying a Quicktime steel bellhousing, and while nice, I think the Advance Adaptors kit you got is even better for a street car. However, since I'm cheap, I'll probably need the steel bell, 'cause I'm gonna use a stock flywheel. I have no plans to rev past 5500.
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Post by spud on Oct 21, 2021 5:16:52 GMT -8
I scrounged out parts from my disc brake dungeon. Found a set of kelsey hayes.. so i cleaned and fixed this old crap up. Got the discs turned, put a seal kit in the calipers, derusted everything, epoxy black chassis paint, the works. Like roadkill cares. Found out there are different spindles. I have the wrong ones. I found three different spindles. One for drums, one for early or late bendix discs and the oddball is for kelsey hayes discs. I used my kelsey hays disc spindles for the aerospace disc conversion on my 69. Poo. I aint rippin that shit apart again. So i made spacers to adapt the thinner bendix spindles to my kelsey hays brakes. What i like about kelsey hayes- lightest factory disc setup, and rattle free.
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Post by spud on Nov 3, 2021 20:20:33 GMT -8
Ok so things i hacked together… since roadkill has been completely scavenged of all plumbing and wiring, i built brakelines and fuel lines from summit universal stainless tubing. I opted to leave out that brass brake warning light thingy cuz i’m cheap and lazy. I had to make up a brake line setup for the rear axle because of course that had been scavenged too. Finding the brass junction block proved dificult but i found a assembly for gm cars that looks like it will work. also made a return style fuel supply, because it makes the cheapo carter electric pump i’m using quieter. I soldered in a 3/8 tube into the stock fuel pickup assembly for supply and kept the stock 5/16 tube for return. That should be a big enough tube for 500 hp this machine will never have. It should also work with fuel injection with a pump and regulator change. If i decide to try that. Not sure about what to do about wiring. Probably should get a universal kit from painless wiring but i’m holding out on that decision for now. Spent all my money on motor mounts, tubing, brake hoses radiator hoses, fuel pump, filter, regulator, and some mufflers. Jeez starting of with a bare hull aint cheap even when you try to be cheap. Guess the tkx kinda blew cheap out of the water.
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Post by 69Rebel on Nov 3, 2021 20:40:24 GMT -8
I wish you were my neighbor, spud. But not enough to move to Texas.
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Post by spud on Nov 4, 2021 8:32:47 GMT -8
It would be nice to have a neighbor that spoke engish. . Maybe after the war. I know its kinda nuts trying to stay focused on fixing old roadkill but it keeps my mind off the shitshow our world has become
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Post by spud on Nov 4, 2021 11:41:38 GMT -8
Speaking of stress related mental failure, i got a doctordiff one piece amc axle kit from ups today. Which reminded me i have a 3.31 twin grip axle to assemble. Maybe for roadkill. Maybe for greenmachine. Not sure where i was going with that. I bought them for a 1970 housing, which has 1 inch narrower track width than the 68-69 housings, and i didnt have axles for it. So doctordiff axles will work. the 3.31 sounds like a good race ratio for a stock 304, and also a good ratio for a tkx. You simply cannot have enough rear axle ratios to play with!
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Post by spud on Nov 23, 2021 21:02:46 GMT -8
Well i started working on the rear axle i bought with this car. I figured pull the axles and grease the bearings drain the oil and put new gear lube in, yaknow stuff you might wanna do to a 50 something axle you dont know much about. So…when i removed the axles one had a twin grip locker thrust button stuck to it by old gummy lube. Huh. i thought it was a 3.15 open diff due to the way the axles turned different directions when one was rotated. So i took off the rear cover and sure enough, twin grip. Sez 1969 on it. I guess this axle wasnt original to the car. I guess thats a good thing. And i guess the guy was right it was a twin grip. And the guts look pretty good other than the powerlock clutches are shot. So i ordered some new ones. I thought about those dr.diff axles, maybe i will fit them to this axle. Maybe not. These should be fine for this project. Who knows what i will do. The weather is keeping me inside more. This roadkill idea is turning into a way bigger deal than what freiburger an dulcich pull off in a few days or weekends or episodes. So anyways, using an old stock 360 was the latest new plan. Maybe. I was rounding up junk to make that happen but didnt have a flywheel for it like i thought i did…so…I bought a new PRW flywheel balanced external for a 360. Seems none of the old sources offer amc flywheels these days. I thought i had an old iron flywheel but i guess not. The one i have was for an early crankflange and had no counterweight. Not sure whst it was from… So i bought a new sfi spec steel one. So maybe it wont blow up on me. I guess i will see what problems it causes. First one was the clutch i got wont fit it. The clutch i got from the boneyard was an 11 inch diaphram. No 11” boltpatern on the new wheel😟The PRW wheel has two hole patterns, one is drilled for a 10.5 borg and beck the other drilled for a ford type ( long) pressure plate. So I’m not sure if i can use a 10.5 inch diaphram clutch, but I’m gonna try one and see if it fits. I dont like borg or long pressure plates cuz the pedal is heavy. I got some old mcleod borg and becks i can use if the small diaphram wont fit. Maybe i should just 401 it. The 401 wheels i have are drilled for 11 inch clutches. Or maybe i should have gone with a 4.0. That would have been a good choice too. It would have as much power as a 304 with a lot better economy. I guess its never too late to start over. I dont guess it would be really “ roadkill “ if it took ten seasons and 20 thousand bux to build a shitty car outa junk and new parts. This was a fun idea but is still amounting to more money than i really wanted to dump into it.
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Post by spud on Sept 21, 2022 19:20:35 GMT -8
Wow so it looks like in a year i havent done a single thing to roadkill. Wow i really suck. I havent done much to the eternal javelin either, except drive it. Which is ok i guess. The monster 304 engine project i started in march i guess is stalled out. Dunno if its waiting on custom pistons or the machinist to move. i’m pretty frustrated with that. Which has me considering 4.0 litre power. I’m sick of fucking with machinists that can’t or won’t and a 4.0 needs less of those clowns. Maybe.
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Post by spud on Sept 26, 2022 14:58:03 GMT -8
I found a free 4.0 today. All i gotta do is clear out a hoarders hoard and haul it off. Something is broke in it and thats all i know. It is roadkill. I guess i will see whats good with it. Hopefully a block or a head. Who knows maybe i will find more treasures in the hoard. From the looks of it i doubt it. I will find out saturday.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Sept 26, 2022 15:35:15 GMT -8
Sweet deal, can't beat the price. 4.0 Turbo time.
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