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Post by spud on Oct 25, 2021 4:58:13 GMT -8
😄 hey let some fool who has assloads of disposable income do FAST racing. I’m gonna just ride the strugglebus with the junk i can afford. They don’t do FAST down here anyway. Here its run whatcha brung. I have an antique with a stock engine and it runs the number and goes rounds against computer controlled minivans. Nobody around here cares about musclecars anymore.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Oct 25, 2021 9:33:46 GMT -8
It'd be interesting to see what one can do. Maybe if Flip Wilson flips enough shit this year, he can build a car.
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Post by n2ojoe on Oct 25, 2021 10:16:09 GMT -8
😄 hey let some fool who has assloads of disposable income do FAST racing. I’m gonna just ride the strugglebus with the junk i can afford. They don’t do FAST down here anyway. Here its run whatcha brung. I have an antique with a stock engine and it runs the number and goes rounds against computer controlled minivans. Nobody around here cares about musclecars anymore. Is the whole Sesame Street Outlaws thing still big in your area? That's another deal I just don't get. No prep seems to wad up more nice cars due to the egos. I 'spose street racing has always been about ego strokin', but the Discovery channel sure made it more normalized than I ever would have thought. Now every jackass at the cruise night thinks that's how all drag racing really is, even if they've never been to a track.
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Post by spud on Oct 25, 2021 10:28:17 GMT -8
Drag racing is for drag racers. Any sport is for the sportsman. Just because the network shows up with cameras and talking heads to make $$$ is no reason to be distracted. It don’t matter what the couch potatoes think it is. They don’t count. EGO is the basis for all competion. If you werent concerned with the ego stroke that winning is, you wouldn’t compete. The average bracket race has something for almost everyone. Heads up racing is probably the ultimate but you wouldnt line up against just anything. You pick your battles. Such is any sport. Street racing wadded up as many cars as no prep, 10.5, small tire, king of the hill or any judgement compromised or tire limited form of competion. People push it until it pushes back, then sweep up the parts and “ drag” the damaged “ego” home. We say “ well that was fun” 😁 a spectator says. “ why the fuck would i do that”
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Post by n2ojoe on Oct 25, 2021 12:37:43 GMT -8
True dat. Hell, I've wadded up my Mustang on a fully prepped track during a heads up event when my rear axle started bending and the slicks became toe'd out. And guess what, I fixed it and was right back out racing again the next spring. Still, I'll take the odds of making a full pass down a prepped track over the street any day. To each his own.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Oct 25, 2021 14:19:00 GMT -8
The one thing the ol' Queef Outlaws did smart was, found someone to fund their racing. They're a hell of a lot faster, and back out in no time after wadding one up, now.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Oct 25, 2021 16:51:32 GMT -8
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Post by Captain Awesome on Oct 27, 2021 9:39:53 GMT -8
These guys are moving forward. Not stuck on the 1972 Trans Am Championship. lol
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Post by sc397 on Oct 28, 2021 14:26:33 GMT -8
Also, where the f@ck has Rick been during all this shit in HIS thread? I was at my cabin working on interior window and door trim. I have a aluminum flywheel in the pile as well. I have (5) Group 19 forged connecting rods with the AMC part number on them. Wish I could find some more so that I could run those. I don't trust the stock cast rods for much over 5500 so that is why I ordered the Molnar rods. I won't spend the money it takes to be as competitive as Joe or the dude with the Electric Blue SC/360 so I will be using the parts that I have. Besides, I will do something stupid like smoke the tires in the hole or miss a gear or any number of other things to beat myself. I just want to have some fun with it.
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Post by PHAT69AMX on Oct 28, 2021 19:55:06 GMT -8
Man's gotta have 3 or 4 more # 4485725 Forged 5.875" AMC connecting rods...
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Post by spud on Oct 29, 2021 2:46:01 GMT -8
Myeh. Fuck those ancient artifacts.just fling a 390 crank and 401 rods in there. Nobody will know or care. A tenth of an inch more stroke is no big dragon slayer. With a .030 over 360 you got a 375. If you have a decent stock bore block to hone and run you got a 370. If that dont make the powers that be happy, Hell sleeve an old 401 block down to below 360 inches if it makes you feel more sporting.you got a bomb proof 360 then. Maybe a heavy one but whatever. Face it your cheatin anyway just by showing up with a giant killer amc. See you can justify or unjustify damn near anything in stock racing. If you get caught who cares everyone is cheating. If you dont wanna get caught dont win. If you win your fucked. They will find something if they look. Really now what about the cam? You gonna run a stock cam? Or are you gonna do like the winners and cheat?
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Post by sc397 on Oct 29, 2021 5:35:27 GMT -8
Kinda mixing the Pure Stock Drags with the FAST Series in the conversations here. I want to run the Pure Stock Drags with the SC/360 and I will be using the parts that I have and running a 360. Hell, I might just run the engine that I have ready for it. The 390 rods won't work on a 360 crank but the 360 crank will be robust enough for what I will be doing with it plus it will be lighter. Same for the block. Lighter than a 401 block and more enough mass to handle the 300/400 horse that it will put out. The weak link is the stock cast connecting rods and the car will be traction limited. From what I have seen you just have to appear stock to a point, not have too lopy of idle and run below a 11.50. Cars that originally had them don't even run a smog pump. SC/360's didn't come from the factory with Torque Links or a Edelbrock carb but yet there is one running. I figure that I can cheat just as much as he does but I just have to be slower which will not be a problem. So yes I plan on enhancing the "Pure Stock" ideas to my advantage by improving these stock parts. LOL! Adding Torque Links I have a 3.91 gear so may as well use it which really is actually stock option for the car. Prolly put better axles in the AMC20. Roller tip rocker arms. A stockish sounding cam. Forged Pistons and rods. Free-Flow manifolds with bigger exhaust. A special stock intake manifold with the correct part number. You guys talked me in to a aluminum flywheel. Not sure on vibration damper. I may use a Carter Carb just because the other Hornet has a Edelbrock. Not sure a worked over Motocraft can out perform a worked over Carter. If I thought I could get away with it I would like run the 15 x7 wheels on the back with F-60-15 tires but that would be too obvious I suppose.
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Post by spud on Oct 29, 2021 7:11:21 GMT -8
I know your goal is pure stock. I also know pure stock is a figment of the imagination. Your plan is a good one and rule compliant. I’m just shooting the breeze. If you were considering FAST racing i would have casually suggested something that loosely resembled a stock engine that had at least 450 cubic inches.
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Post by 69Rebel on Oct 29, 2021 7:11:39 GMT -8
FWIW, I had a 360 with the Crane version of the small Scummit cam, and it pretty much had no lope.
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Post by 69Rebel on Oct 29, 2021 7:12:37 GMT -8
I know your goal is pure stock. I also know pure stock is a figment of the imagination. Your plan is a good one and rule compliant. I’m just shooting the breeze. If you were considering FAST racing i would have casually suggested something that loosely resembled a stock engine that had at least 450 cubic inches. Just paint an Indy block gAyMC blue!
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