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Post by sc397 on Jul 5, 2021 7:06:48 GMT -8
Yep it is the one. Long story short, the caretaker of the property that it was sitting on told me that I could have it. The next time I went up there it had been moved from where it had been sitting for 25 years to in front of another shed 4 lots down. I asked the caretaker WTF and he said that the actual owner of the property gave it away to someone else. No biggie to me that is the way it goes. So the caretaker actually buys the property and the new owner of the tractor tells him that he is selling out and doesn't want the tractor. He tells the guy that he will take it back because he had already gave it to me once. I guess I was meant to have it LOL! Good news is the engine is not froze up. Bad news is, this project is back burner to the rest of my un-started projects. The Tractor Serial number is 051354 The engine Code number is 6702202 and if I decifered right the engine was built on Feb 2, 1967
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Post by javtwotone on Jul 6, 2021 6:17:41 GMT -8
Very cool. Really dig (get it) the roto-tiller set-up. A guard on that belt might be nice.. Did you actually finish a project and thought you needed a replacement basket case project?
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Post by landbarge on Jul 6, 2021 6:21:33 GMT -8
guard, GUARD, don't need no stinking guard. That was built when men were men.
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Post by 69Rebel on Jul 6, 2021 6:58:10 GMT -8
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Post by fleetfox on Jul 12, 2021 20:36:34 GMT -8
Great Machine. Mine is the Simplicity version, same model in orange with a covered pan seat. Look over the bevel gear box, plan on new seals in the rear end. Ironically uses the same battery as a Honda CRV. I bot mine with every factory attachment included, except the tiller. Your Ingersoll might get jealous.
Fleet Fox
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Post by sc397 on Jul 13, 2021 7:27:33 GMT -8
The Ingersoll is not jealous. It could hook on to Allis and my Wheelhorse and pull them both anywhere it wanted to. Hmmm, this has got me thinking... We just might have to try that some day.
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Post by sc397 on Jul 13, 2021 16:55:49 GMT -8
Well this won't be fun... Let's keep track of how much I spend on my "Free" B10. So far I have spent $102.00 for 2 new front tires, tubes and tubes for the rear tires. I just ordered all new front wheel bearings that cost $61.00. And this just so I can roll it off of the trailer.......
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Post by landbarge on Jul 13, 2021 17:07:57 GMT -8
Just keep trying to remember the Rambler rule. Squeeze the nickel til the buffalo farts.
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Post by fleetfox on Jul 13, 2021 19:32:42 GMT -8
Haha! The Ingersoll is definitely in a class of it's own.
Wait'll you start replacing all the belts...and then the seized idlers.. and they are very proud of the carbs for those engines...and....
Zippo Varga on youtube, excellent resource by the way.
Fleet Fox
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Post by sc397 on Jul 19, 2021 18:18:22 GMT -8
Found some information.
"From 1965 to 1983, the Allis-Chalmers Corporation owned Simplicity Manufacturing.
Allis-Chalmers
During the 1950’s, the United States became increasingly suburban, creating the need for riding lawn mowers. The major farm equipment manufacturers wanted to expand into this new market. John Deere and International Harvester designed and built their own machines. The others opted to buy from a firm with an existing product line to re-label as their own. Allis-Chalmers went with Simplicity Manufacturing. In 1961 the first Allis-Chalmers garden tractor, the 7.25 horsepower B-1, was born. Except for paint, decals and minor sheet metal changes, it was identical to the Simplicity 725. In 1963, the B-1 was replaced by the 9 horsepower B-10. In 1965 the B-10 became the Big-10 with a new 10 horsepower engine. In 1966, the Big Ten reverted back to the B-10 when the new B-12 was introduced. Up until 1971 all Allis garden tractors were painted yellow and were powered by Briggs engines.
During 1965, Allis-Chalmers purchased Simplicity. The federal government challenged the purchase. Due to the fair trade laws in effect at that time, the government claimed that Allis-Chalmers controlled too great a share of the market and thus limited competition. As a result, in 1967, Allis-Chalmers opened a new plant in Lexington, South Carolina to build garden tractors. The first models built there were the B-207, B-110, B-112 and HB-112. The B-208, B-210, B-212, and HB-212 were introduced in 1970.
Simplicity tractors continued to be built in Port Washington, but for the first time there were differences besides paint and decals. In 1971, the 300 series introduced many design changes. The body was painted orange and the hoods painted cream, and Kohler engines were used for the first time. In 1973 the similar 400 series was introduced. These tractors bore little resemblance to the Port Washington built Simplicity models. The mower decks and many of the attachments were different. Also in 1971, the B-207 and B-208 were updated to the new paint scheme, but retained Briggs power. The 206, 207, and 208 were continued as the Homesteader series from 1972 to 1974. Also in 1972, Allis-Chalmers introduced the model 616, which was the Simplicity PowrMax with orange paint and a different hood. The 616 became the 620 in 1973 with the new 20 horsepower engine. In 1975 the 620 was relabeled as the 720 to match the numbering of the updated smaller tractors. To the best of our knowledge the 620 and 720 models are identical except that the later 720’s had an upgraded front axle. AC later came out with a second model 616, which was a painted over Simplicity 4216 and had no relation to the earlier “PowrMax†616.
During the Nixon administration, most of the fair trade laws were repealed, so in 1973 Allis-Chalmers closed the Lexington plant and transferred all production back to Port Washington. Once again, AC and Simplicity Garden tractors became identical except for paint and decals, although certain individual models may or may not have had an exact Simplicity counterpart."
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Post by fleetfox on Jul 20, 2021 20:02:50 GMT -8
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Post by fleetfox on Jul 20, 2021 20:17:59 GMT -8
Don't tell your Ingersoll, but she has a red headed step cousin: tractors.fandom.com/wiki/Massey_Ferguson_318_GTXI honestly did not know about these, I have seen old Massey lawn tractors at farm shows, but those were older and I believe were built by AMF when they made Harley's as well as bowling balls... Fleet Fox
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Post by sc397 on Jul 21, 2021 3:19:38 GMT -8
Literally! I didn't know that either. I never had heard of Ingersoll until I went to trade my Case in on a new one. I have traded Case tractors up from a 10hp to a 14hp to a 16hp then to a 20hp Ingersoll. The trade in value on those Case tractors were in credible. After I wore them out I just painted them up to look new and I actually traded 2 of them in for more than I paid for them. I always bought demonstrators.
Ingersoll lawn tractors by model Ingersoll model 4120 garden tractor.Ingersoll was founded when Jack Ingersoll bought the Case Outdoor Power Equipment Division in 1983. The division traced its roots back to Colt garden tractors in the early 1960s. Ingersoll continued to produce garden tractors in Winneconne, Wisconsin using the hydraulic drive systems pioneered by Colt. Ingersoll was purchased by Eastman Industries in 2005, and production was moved to Portland, Maine in 2006.
And at one time Tenneco, the company that I worked for actually owned JI Case International and Newport News Ship Building along with Monroe and Walker all at the same time.
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Post by fleetfox on Sept 7, 2021 19:40:40 GMT -8
And just to bring it all full circle, Case, after being jammed together with IH, is now majority owned by Fiat, which now of course is part of... and owns..., well you know...
Fox
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Post by sc397 on Sept 8, 2021 3:44:27 GMT -8
And a bigger circle was that when I started at Tenneco they owned Monroe Auto Equipment, Walker Exhaust, Clevite Elastomers, Pactive Packaging (Glad Bags), Newport News Ship Building, and JI Case International all at one time! They sold everything off and saved the debt for Tenneco Automotive which included Monroe Auto Equipment, Walker Exhaust, Clevite Elastomers. Then the idiots bought most of the Delphi Shock Business and went backwards again 3 years ago and bought out Federal Mogal and absorbed their debt. Glad I am retied from all of that....
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