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Post by Captain Awesome on May 12, 2022 5:38:18 GMT -8
Look at the nice stripes on that Lawn!
Have fun, Joe!
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Post by n2ojoe on May 14, 2022 13:55:57 GMT -8
Everything went well at the race, besides the heat. I got home yesterday about 6:30 pm and opened the gate to the back yard to park the trailer, and had one of the top hinges break causing half the vinyl gate to about fall off... Got that welded up and back on this morning, then got the yardwork caught up again before the rain. Finally have a few minutes now after dinner to get caught up here. So, the turnout was a little light at the race. Despite me being on the 2nd page of qualifying, I was actually mid-pack in the Factory Stock class (car numbers beginning with "S") which is a copy/paste of the Pure Stock rules. There were quite a few FAST and Modern Muscle late model cars on the top half of the list. Screenshot_2022-05-14-16-05-31 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr Screenshot_2022-05-14-16-05-21 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr
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Post by n2ojoe on May 14, 2022 14:06:44 GMT -8
I was paired up for the 2 out of 3 heads up shootout with this nice 67 GTO, that qualified just below me. 20220513_144532 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr I didn't get any pictures from most of the event, but I took a lineup of the Factory Stock cars in the staging lanes. The quickest 8 cars were in a heads up elimination ladder of their own, with Tim Clary taking the Factory Stock title in his blue 396 Chevelle. I didn't get to see most of the FAST shootout, but Terry Pennington and his son Jordan were #1 and #2 qualifiers and very quick even in thick mid 80 degrees weather. 20220513_145536 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr 20220513_145543 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr 20220513_145551 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr 20220513_145559 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr
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Post by n2ojoe on May 14, 2022 14:13:49 GMT -8
I ended up sweeping all 3 close rounds with the GTO. It's always more fun running door to door with a closely matched opponent, which is what makes this type of racing so fun. Even more of a challenge since FAST only races on a pro tree, and I'm usually banging the 4 speed against an automatic car. Too bad this was in humid 87 degree conditions, it's as good as the cars could run. My new 2.64 trans is a solid .05 better in the 60', but 2nd and 3rd go much quicker and don't really get to use all the engine's available torque. Kind of a trade off from the 2.43 box. I'll try again in better air eventually. Round #1 20220514_165858 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr Round #2 IMG_20220514_184125 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr 20220514_165912 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr Round #3 20220514_165922 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr
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Post by n2ojoe on May 14, 2022 14:18:21 GMT -8
A nice shot from FB of the super cobra jet crew, which are also all 4 speeds. Cool bunch of guys. I noticed my truck/trailer photo bombing the background LOL! I can be seen probably cussin' about my carburetor. Screenshot_2022-05-14-16-11-18 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr
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Post by n2ojoe on May 14, 2022 14:22:41 GMT -8
Speaking of close races, this may have been the closest I have ever had and was definitely the closest of the time trials. My AMX against the green Charger 440 6 pack. Margin of victory was .0007! I didn't know who won, but he just got me at the stripe. 20220514_165844 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr
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Post by n2ojoe on May 14, 2022 14:26:50 GMT -8
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Post by spud on May 14, 2022 16:44:09 GMT -8
That was a close race with the .0007 MOV. Last year i got trailered by a soccermom in a suv . I ran dead on dial but she beat me by .0003. I was really disappointed on that one. Oh well thats racin. Great pictures and a great event! I have also tried the 2.64 low against the 2.43 low. Truly one sucks as bad as the other. Second is too close to first with the 2.43 and third is too far away, the 2.64 trans third is too close to second and fourth is too far away. The ultra rare aftermarket borg warner amc wide ratio has better gear spacing but i have never seen one or heard of any surviving examples. I often wondered if there are any possibilities available hiding in the dust and spiderwebs at SK speed ,Tex racing , richmond gear or liberty gear.
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Post by landbarge on May 14, 2022 17:03:18 GMT -8
Some good pedalin' Joe!
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Post by landbarge on May 14, 2022 17:14:32 GMT -8
Well, shit. Looking at the map, that's only 3 hours from me.
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Post by n2ojoe on May 15, 2022 3:20:22 GMT -8
That was a close race with the .0007 MOV. Last year i got trailered by a soccermom in a suv . I ran dead on dial but she beat me by .0003. I was really disappointed on that one. Oh well thats racin. Great pictures and a great event! I have also tried the 2.64 low against the 2.43 low. Truly one sucks as bad as the other. Second is too close to first with the 2.43 and third is too far away, the 2.64 trans third is too close to second and fourth is too far away. The ultra rare aftermarket borg warner amc wide ratio has better gear spacing but i have never seen one or heard of any surviving examples. I often wondered if there are any possibilities available hiding in the dust and spiderwebs at SK speed ,Tex racing , richmond gear or liberty gear. Agreed, all the factory T10's have their own seperate issues. I think I have posted this here before, but I also have this Liberty pro shifted box to try this year. I really need to dig it back out for a refresh. 2.72 1st gear with a much better spread. 20190202_164336 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr 20190120_215025 by Joe Pinsoneault, on Flickr
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Post by n2ojoe on May 15, 2022 3:33:06 GMT -8
Here's a video where you can clearly hear just how quick and useless 2nd gear is with the 2.64 T10. Please excuse the excessive wheel spin, I was experimenting with the launch during testing.
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Post by spud on May 15, 2022 8:02:36 GMT -8
Well I suppose in a freindly way i should say the pro shifted trans is a treasure, yet a pro shifted trans is generally noticable even when driven well. The other thing is that particular ratio spread is umm … probably a lot worse than the factory t-10 p,t, and v gearsets. The 272 low is adequate, the quantum leap to second is very disheartening, then third and fourth are extremely close after that. I would say it would be fun to try but i know surely its not going to satisfy your quest. I think it has been discussed before. The aftermarket t-10 w wide ratio ( 2.64, 1.75, 1.33) is by far a better selection, but given its rarity i would say impossible, and once again it aint “factory”…So rules may be a point of contention. If trans ratios were not a sticking point, there are several currently available richmond gear t-10 gearsets that in spite of machining required, could be hidden away in an amc case. Or the entire gm version trans could be used if … well we know it aint happening. It is what it is. No factory t-10 ratio is stellar, in spite of ring and pinion selection and clutch sophistication. The stock limitation are severe limitations particularly in amc’s case. Maybe one day transmission rules will free up. If you were willing “ bend” the rules i know you can get a better t-10 ratio spread. Not cheap or easy but it is possible. But not ethical. Which is not really worth it in this form of racing. You are doing really well with what you are allowed in my opinion.
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Post by n2ojoe on May 15, 2022 8:20:37 GMT -8
Oh, no worries there. Nobody cares if you swap in a GM trans. It was actually recommended several times at the race. The only concern is a stock shifter location for me. Rules are extremely relaxed in reality. They just want car counts and everyone to have fun, believe it or not. Things must only appear mainly stock.
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Post by spud on May 15, 2022 8:27:25 GMT -8
Then your good. You could Go with a lot of stuff, like a david kee toploader, he has huge ratio options and shifter location is not an issue if you can make up a simple mounting plate. I have made a couple to adapt toploaders to my javelin and hornet. Also the t-10 options have two or three really nice ratio spreads, and if you look at the tailshaft shifter mount areas, making a plate to get the stock shifter correctly posistion is very do able. I guess if i was starting from ground zero i would buy and advance adapter kit for a gm trans and a 288 191 133 t-10 and go from there. You would need a little longer driveshaft but thats a good thing.
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