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Post by Captain Awesome on Jan 4, 2022 11:12:36 GMT -8
It's funny, my kid and a buddy of his work together. They both could get jobs that pay a little more per hour, and work less, but they refuse to take them, since there's little to no OT.
Those two work 7 days a week with some double shifts here and there. Sundays are double time, Holidays triple time. He worked Thanksgiving and made 81 an hr. They closed the plant for Christmas, so he missed out. Otherwise he'd work every Holiday and wished there was more. Then you have those who don't want to work weekends and Holidays. Which those other jobs are strickly during the week... I mean, they'd be making 30 an hr, can still earn a decent living, put he'd rather work 70-80 hours at 27 an hr....
But that's how he has a brand new Car, bought Cash, and a house by 24 y/o.
We went to Crapron yesterday morning to look at these dealer modded Ford Trucks for 62k, (standard cab, shortbed 2wd, 5.0 Supercharged 650ish horse they were claiming) which he can pay cash for as well.
It blows his mind how many there are that can't show up for more than 3 days a week.
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Post by sc397 on Jan 4, 2022 16:16:33 GMT -8
I guess 34 is the new 17. Yesterday we agreed that he would get here at the we hours of 10 am. Of course I was up at 7 and by 9:45 I was so fuking pissed because he wasn't here I could spit nails. Mind you, he lives 3 miles away in town. I managed to cool my jets by the time he got here at like 9:58. I said Dude, you are cutting it way to close. Of course the response was, well I stopped at the store to pick up some lunch and water. My response was, Well I guess you found out that it doesn't take zero time to do that and proceeded to tell him about a lady I used to work with that everyone hated. I told him that this lady lived 2 blocks away from work but couldn't manage to get there before 10 after 8. I again mentioned that it doesn't take zero time to do something. Not sure if he got it but he did work pretty hard today and got the drywall and nails pulled off of inside of the old paint room. It is not heated in there so it was a balmy 23 degrees this morning in there but so fukinwhat, I was working in the rafters above him. So I called it quits at 4 and sat down and had a couple of beers with him. Come to find out there is no pension, he has no job or a prospect of one and he didn't have enough gas to get to my place tomorrow. In fact, he doesn't know how he is going to pay rent next month. I shook my head and mentioned that I bet that he is pretty happy that I hired him to do some work. He said, Oh yea and responded with something like I (he) wants to soak it all in and learn as much as possible. I honestly do think that he appreciates it and I do think he will come around.
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Post by 69Rebel on Jan 4, 2022 17:22:54 GMT -8
34 year old trainee...
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Post by spud on Jan 4, 2022 18:03:01 GMT -8
Lol. If your payin by the hour your good. If he aint there on the strike of the hour, he dont make nuthin till the next hour. And if he stops before the strike of the hour, well you dont pay for a partial hour. If you aint ready to hit it at the strike of the gong, well you aint gettin paid for that hour. Tell him thats the way you are. Its how you keep track since you aint got no goddam timeclock. Its better than nuthin. Watch out, sounds like hes butterin ya up for advance pay…
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Post by 71sc360 on Jan 4, 2022 18:52:23 GMT -8
15 to start. I'd be their at 7 am. lol I was thinking the same thing... and I'll bring the donuts!
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jan 5, 2022 5:51:36 GMT -8
You have to be in the Military 20 years to get a Pension. Anything else is Welfare (disability/same thing) for "stress" of folding underwear in Supply, which is what 90% of the "Service" is. Thank You for Ser.... er, folding the shorts. My Adopted Son was in the Navy 6 years. Boy he can tell you of the "Quality" people he had to serve with. Hence why when his hitch was up, he got out. I told him, another 14 years and you have a Pension.... He said he couldn't do 20 years with a bunch of lazy, worthless, Retards. 6 was bad enough.
10 am, you'd think he'd be used to being up at 5 am.
15 for unskilled labor like that. I'd do that shit for $10 and kiss your fucking ass for it. Retard's work. He's not building 8 second engines all by himself, just pull some nails and yank down some dry wall. They pay $8 an hr for that here in Youngstown.
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Post by sc397 on Jan 5, 2022 6:06:56 GMT -8
I was the same. It was a 40 min drive and I would be at my desk at least a hour before I had to be there and I worked through my lunch hour for years. The problem with that was eventually some would expect that I would be there early and would want me to work on their project early. If it got to the point of pissing me off I would conveniently be working on something else that was more important than theirs. The one guy who did that to me had moved on before I retired, hired a fellow that I had worked with on my recommendation, and is actually a car buddy of mine now. LOL!
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Post by sc397 on Jan 5, 2022 6:11:52 GMT -8
Here is the problem.. Starting wages at Donalds and Berger King is $16something a hour around here and they are having trouble finding people to work. Yea $15.00 a hour is expensive in my book but seems to be what a $8.00 per hour job is worth now.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jan 5, 2022 6:42:59 GMT -8
I'm also ASSuming you are paying cash.... He could go collect welfare and still make 600 a week (ASSuming 40 hrs) no one knows about.
Yeah our starting wages are going up too. But it's 4-5 hours a day at 3-4 days a week, good luck getting 40hrs.... And doing what you're doing is Far better work than DickDonalds, go work a lunch shift. Nuking 50,000 Cheeseburgs and scrap the pickles of 35,000 isn't as easy as some think. The Hardest work I ever did in my life was Retail.
and I've worked outside in 20 below all day, worked cutting down trees and loading all the logs above my head into a trailer when it's 100 and humid out, in the Sun. and that shit is pussy work in comparison. That's why no one lasts in Retail/FF if you're actually someone with a work ethic. If you're a Woman, or Gay, they let you stand around and do nothing, while the Guy with ethic does 30 people's Jobs. At the RV shop, I only had to do 5 guy's jobs. Let him go work at Dick Donalds, he'll be gone in a day....
But it just pisses me off when someone GIVES someone an opportunity and they shit on it. I'd be in that Shop BEFORE you are, to SHOW you I'm willing and greatful. Talk over Beers is cheap....
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jan 5, 2022 7:13:55 GMT -8
But hey, I'm just jealous. Must be nice to have a Relative GIVE you a good paying job that requires extremely low skills in a good enviroment. Not much brain power involved in pulling nails. Shit, sit down and beers at the end of the shift sure sounds sweet.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jan 5, 2022 7:31:28 GMT -8
as far as 17 y/o go. We have a lot out here who own 200k houses by 20. They started working on the Farm at 12-14. Own a 70k+ Brand new Dually Diesel, side by sides and new 4 wheelers, plus 100 guns, etc... and a 200k house in eastern Blowhio is like a 500k house in other places. We have the lowest housing Market there is....
Hence why my Son always used to tell me what a fucking loser he was for not having a House at 23, since all his friends owned one at 18-20. So even OWNING a home at 24, like my Boy, you're a still a pretty big piece of shit around here. Once they started buying houses, he wished he never went to College and just worked.... I know the Libtard kids he went to High School with are Cellar dwellers or renters, not a singl;e one owns a home or a half decent Car...... But the Republican kids all own expensive self bought shit... It's right in front of everyone's faces to see. I've been watching it.....
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Post by amxdreamer on Jan 5, 2022 10:50:12 GMT -8
After we had a sit down I think he got it. He was hoping for $20.00 a hour and I told him that I would start him out at $15 and that we would negotiate higher wages when he has earned it. He worked pretty hard yesterday and did everything that I asked him to do. Time will tell but I will give him a chance to redeem himself. He is a 34 year old man who was in the service, divorced with 2 kids living off of a pension of some sort. He just doesn't have the same drive that I had at 34 but then again not many people did. At this point, I will take whatever help I can get and he is helping. 34 YEARS OLD!?!?!? Christ, I thought you were talking about a stupid teenager... This world is fucking doomed. I thought the same thing!
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Post by stickshifter on Jan 5, 2022 13:02:55 GMT -8
I just read this and thought it was applicable to the conversation.
Words to live by ✌
12 Fucking Rules for Success
1. Do the fucking work. Don't be lazy.
2. Stop fucking waiting. It's time.
3. Rely on yourself. The universe doesn't give a fuck.
4. Be fucking practical. Success is not a theory.
5. Be productive early. Don't fuck around all day.
6. Don't be a fucking baby. Life's hard. Get on with it.
7. Don't hang out with fuckwits.
8. Don't fucking waste energy on shit you can't control.
9. Stop bullshitting. It's fucking embarrassing.
10. Stop being a fucking people pleaser.
11.Stop putting toxic shit in your body. It's fucking stupid.
12. Stop doing the same fucking thing and hoping shit will change.
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Post by amxdreamer on Jan 5, 2022 13:43:17 GMT -8
out fucking standing
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jan 5, 2022 13:57:44 GMT -8
Those 12 rules are less and less possible with so many Women having rights, and making their kids Pussies.
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