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Post by sc397 on Jun 27, 2023 3:03:51 GMT -8
I have a clean looking AMC20 from a Gremlin with a 4.10 Limited Slip in it and may have double keyed axles. It will fit any small car including early Javelin and AMX. I have a guy with a SC360 that wants to buy it. What is it worth?
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Post by spud on Jun 27, 2023 5:01:01 GMT -8
Whatever he will pay. I figure personally i would pay 500 for a good one with brakes, just for a good solid cheap deal.i would go higher if i needed or really wanted it . 4.10 gear is unusual, maybe desireable for a racer only. It costs about 400 just for parts to put it in. I dont think 1000 is out of the question at all, for a complete, proven working axle with brakes and no noise. If it had reciepts for a new twin grip clutch pack, it would be worth more. A late trac lock diff is same as a open diff cuz they just plain suck. If you cant squeeze him for that kind of money its another reason for me to make a road trip. I’d love to have it. Its an inch narrower than a 68-69 amx jav rear, and same width as a 70 jav amx rear.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jun 27, 2023 6:45:54 GMT -8
People really go gah gah over 4.10s. So I'd say it's worth more than a 3.54 by a couple/few hundred.
GB paid 200 for his 3.54 30 years ago. Add hundred bucks a decade, that's 500, add the ooo of 4.10s, 750 ish IMO depending on condition........
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Post by spud on Jun 27, 2023 7:10:51 GMT -8
I built a rear with new yukon 3.54 gears and bearing kit, trutrac, and new axle bearings and seals. My cost? About 1500 bux in parts alone, and that was 4 years ago…I have a new g2 brand 3.31 r&p, trutrac, install kit, doctor diff solid axle kit, wilwood 11 inch brake kit, and i forget the brand now, but its the heavy aluminum cover and carrier bearing cap girdle. Total cost in parts( with free axle housing) about 2600$. Still have to put it together. So i know the cost in time and money for an amc 20 rear in various stages. I would not hesitate to spend more that a paltry 200 bux for a solid functional good condition amc 20 rear, irregardless on ratio or carrier type, and if i can get one for 100 bux i surely would not hesitate, but if i had to step up to serious money i would, but the cover is coming off for at the least a visual inspection. But its not my first rodeo. I say let the seller beware because i know better. I am not looking for a good deal, i’m looking for a good rear, i dont mind giving good money for good parts, that good business and hopefully a fair deal. Whats it worth really depends on the buyer, or the seller, not so much popular opinion. If he is smart on the subject, well the rear is worth more. If he’s a cheapskate, i’m not a seller. If he’s a rambler mentality, he will be so cheap he will buy a broken rear. Its all relative. Some people wont sell a good rear for any price. You have an oddity. If its good, you best aim high. If you just wanna give a guy a break, well you can adjust that. If you wanna get rid of it, further adjustment. Personally i would ask about what he has to trade in. A good 3.15 or 2.87 is a better street deal, and there are interested buyers looking for realistic ratios. You see, theres plenty of business in the amc 20. Same as transmissions. Amc 20’s are worth plenty of money. Dont cheat yourself. If you cant get 1000 bux in 2023 money for that, hell i would NOT SELL IT. Thats my true opinion. I am a fan of the 20, and know its getting more obsolete by the minute. I have always been very happy people seem to give them away. I figure a busted or worn out axle is worth 300 bux just as a core housing with axles brakes cover yoke and ancilliaries. I aint cheap, i aint stupid, i know what it takes to build and pay for ANY make of axle, and amc 20 is rarer, valuable and irreplaceable, and amcers need to figure that out.
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Post by sc397 on Jun 27, 2023 7:49:44 GMT -8
Every single 1970 AMX rear end I have measured are exactly the same width as the 1968-69 but none that I have measured came with Machine wheels. I was guessing at $500.00 myself but now you guys have me thinking I should ask more.
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Post by landbarge on Jun 27, 2023 8:52:48 GMT -8
You can always adjust down from a higher number
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Post by spud on Jun 27, 2023 9:50:30 GMT -8
I’m the other side of the coin i know. However thats not run of the mill and certainly amc rears are drastically underpriced.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jun 27, 2023 13:02:19 GMT -8
Every single 1970 AMX rear end I have measured are exactly the same width as the 1968-69 but none that I have measured came with Machine wheels. I was guessing at $500.00 myself but now you guys have me thinking I should ask more. Depends on how good of a friend he is.... I always factor that in. If he's just some schmo. well
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Post by sc397 on Jun 27, 2023 13:04:58 GMT -8
Don't know the guy at all but his car is in Kenosha and I guess he lives in Texas. I was going to see if Spud or ACM had one but I may as well sell the one that I have.
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jun 27, 2023 13:12:29 GMT -8
GB was very lucky to find his 30 years ago, and he felt he stole it. sooooo
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jun 27, 2023 13:14:28 GMT -8
30 years ago, a 3.42 or 3.73 8.5 10 bolt out of a Z/TA was bringing $500 all day. Now 1000+ and need rebuilt more or less. If you can find them, and that's a Chevy. The AMC 20s sure don't grow on trees.
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Post by landbarge on Jun 27, 2023 13:31:28 GMT -8
There's no treasure trove of small body model "Dana" 20's
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Post by sc397 on Jun 27, 2023 13:40:19 GMT -8
You just had to go there didn't you...
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Post by landbarge on Jun 27, 2023 13:42:17 GMT -8
They went there last night at the genius forum
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Post by Captain Awesome on Jun 27, 2023 13:49:04 GMT -8
If someone wants to do a Car "right" they gotta pay. Putting a Ford rear end in is EXACTLY like putting a LS in. GBs car was AMC front to back. He wouldn't put a Ford rear in no matter what.
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